May 10, 2006, 11:02 PM // 23:02
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Draconic Rage Incarnate
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Iowa
Guild: Alphahive
Profession: R/A
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I never much liked her, until NOW....
This has got to be the coolest thing I have read in a long time:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/5/10/145432/882
You go girl.
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May 10, 2006, 11:10 PM // 23:10
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: US
Guild: Righteous Apathy [RA]
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That is pretty cool. Still not voting for her if (when) she runs for President, but good job on this thing.
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May 11, 2006, 12:01 AM // 00:01
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#3
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Pre-Searing Cadet
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Question. How is Raising minimum wage cool?
Anyone that knows anything about Economics would tell you it'll cause more unemployment and inflation.
How is that a good thing?
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May 11, 2006, 12:23 AM // 00:23
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#4
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Draconic Rage Incarnate
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Iowa
Guild: Alphahive
Profession: R/A
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rolune
Question. How is Raising minimum wage cool?
Anyone that knows anything about Economics would tell you it'll cause more unemployment and inflation.
How is that a good thing?
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$5.15 hour x 40 hours per week = $206
$206 x 52 weeks in the year = $10,712
Where the &*$@ can you live in the U.S. on $10,712 a year?
Minimum wage hasn't even come close to keeping up with inflation, it hasn't been raised in forever, and yet every year those fat bastards vote themselves a nice raise. I have worked minimum wage before, and it sucks ass. It has to suck even worse nowadays - I mean, what percentage of $10,712 a year do you think would go for just gas to get to your shithole job?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Rock
You know what minimum wage is? If I could pay you less, I would, but it's illegal.
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May 11, 2006, 12:38 AM // 00:38
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#5
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Apr 2005
Profession: Mo/
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Raise it to at least $7...
Not too big of news for me here in Oregon.
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May 11, 2006, 12:56 AM // 00:56
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#6
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: In my parent's basement
Profession: R/Mo
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Most people with min. wage bike/ ride bus/subway. But still, $5.15 is crap.
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May 11, 2006, 01:43 AM // 01:43
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#7
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Pre-Searing Cadet
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Regardless. You start being required to pay your employees more and wont hire as many. Hence more unemployment. I don't understand how that's hard to see. Heck look at Oregons unemployment rate.
When the minimum wage is raised. Consumers have more to spend so an increase in demand comes with an increase in prices.
All real basic stuff really. Yes it's bad that they raise their own salaries and I don't agree with it. But it happens.. We get shafted life goes on. Raising the minimum wage everywhere would only cause more problems.
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May 11, 2006, 02:18 AM // 02:18
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#8
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: BC, Canada.. how aboot that eh?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rolune
Question. How is Raising minimum wage cool?
Anyone that knows anything about Economics would tell you it'll cause more unemployment and inflation.
How is that a good thing?
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Well some people can't see past the "yay more money for me" aspect. In the long run everything has ups and downs.
Anyways this does not change my life, I live in Canadia where $6.50/h is suposed to earn you a living.
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May 11, 2006, 05:26 AM // 05:26
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#9
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1,787,569
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: BC, Canada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultimate_Gaara
$6.50/h is suposed to earn you a living.
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Isn't the $6.50 per hour rate only for the first 500 (or so) hours of employment - as a "training wage"? I thought minimum wage in BC was $8.00/hr.
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May 11, 2006, 08:32 AM // 08:32
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#10
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: A little chalet outside Drok's
Guild: Natural Born Killaz
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Here's the real problem with her proposal - linking minimum wage to congressional pay is merely a way of making congressional pay raises more palatable to people:
Congressman A: "People on Minimum wage aren't making enough to get by on."
Congressman B: "Yeah, they're really having a tough time making ends meet."
Congressman C: "Let's give ourselves a 20% pay raise. that'll bring the minimum wage up!"
Minimum Wage Earners A - ZZZZZ: YEAAHHH! I could use a 20% pay increase.
Congressman D: Us congressmen are making too much as it is, we need to spend the taxpayer's money more prudently."
Minimum Wage Earners A - ZZZZZ: Boooo! Congressman D is against the lower classes! Get rid of that bozo!
If she really wanted to put forward an altruistic bill to help increase the minimum wage, she'd propose a bill that would link the minimum wage with annual cost of living increases. (Inflation rate)
And if she really wanted to come up with a more palatable way to justify congressional pay raises, she'd propose that congressional pay raises would be determined by the voters, instead of congress!
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